ZAFAR – THE EXCEPTION

Zafar sneaked in to the crowd of people who were attending a Relatable Evangelism Training. I believe God allowed it to happen to speak to him. Organising pastor found out about it only at the end of the training and asked me to speak to him. This is how conversation went:

Green apple stands out in a line of oranges

What brings you here?

Well I am seeking for truth.

I really appreciate it. So do you believe in after life?

No

Is Zafar this body or Zafar lives in this body?

Zafar lives in this body.

So when this body dies Zafar remains?

Yes

So you believe in afterlife?

Yes.

Do you believe in some sort of judgement after this life?

No. Judgement happens here only for whatever good or bad we do.

Does that mean one can kill any number of people he wants and then somehow he automatically pays for it and there is no judgement for him after this life. Will you be ok with that?

No it is not OK.

Would you hope for some sort of judgement after this life?

Yes.

Is there anyone perfect in this world without sin?

No.

Suppose there are 3 glasses of clean drinking water. In the first one I pour 1 drop of sewage water and in the second one 5 drops and in the third 15 drops. Which one would you drink?

None.

Don’t you think that sin, how small it might look have the similar consequences?

Yes.

How do you clean a dirty table?

By clean cloth

Why not dirty?

Because dirty cloth will not clean it but will make it even more dirty.

Would you agree that the thing in the dirt cannot clean itself?

Yes.

Suppose your relationship with your father is broken because of your mistake. How many ways are there to mend it?

By doing good works.

If you feed 5 poor people will it mend your relationship with you father?

No.

So what do you think you should do to mend it?

Ask for forgiveness.

Suppose you have taken a huge loan from your friend which you are unable to pay and your creditor/friend says that I cancel your debt. You got it for free but who paid the cost?

My friend.

So would you agree that the one who forgives pays the cost?

Yes.

When God forgives who pays the cost?

God.

Did God pay the cost for the forgiveness of our sins.

Yes.

How?

He came to this world suffered for us on the cross to pay for it.  Can I have the Bible in Hindi.

Sure.